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    Kind of seems like the best way to make a lot of money in a reasonably short period of time is to be a part of the crowd-funding campaigns for some of these technologies/currencies, then sell high right off the exchange debut, buy back low and ride the tide higher with 2-3x the initial buy-in while the price goes crazy on speculation. There are lots of people out there doing just that. Not enough full-time stock people because I don't think most of them understand the cryptos. Hence, my pull to buying into systems like Ripple and IOTA. Yeah, BTC is going to go higher, some people (if you believe them) talk about trends of 100k BTC and even up to 1 Million. I don't know if We'll see that in our lifetimes, but considering BTC comprise a vast portion (40%) of all Crytpo Market Cap, and even more than that if you consider BTC investments make up large portions of the other currency volumes... When BTC has a bad day, usually they all do. When BTC goes up, usually they all will. At least, the higher end (top 10) of the market cap valued coins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p@r0tuXus View Post
    Kind of seems like the best way to make a lot of money in a reasonably short period of time is to be a part of the crowd-funding campaigns for some of these technologies/currencies, then sell high right off the exchange debut, buy back low and ride the tide higher with 2-3x the initial buy-in while the price goes crazy on speculation. There are lots of people out there doing just that. Not enough full-time stock people because I don't think most of them understand the cryptos. Hence, my pull to buying into systems like Ripple and IOTA. Yeah, BTC is going to go higher, some people (if you believe them) talk about trends of 100k BTC and even up to 1 Million. I don't know if We'll see that in our lifetimes, but considering BTC comprise a vast portion (40%) of all Crytpo Market Cap, and even more than that if you consider BTC investments make up large portions of the other currency volumes... When BTC has a bad day, usually they all do. When BTC goes up, usually they all will. At least, the higher end (top 10) of the market cap valued coins.
    Some ICOs have been impossible to get on board with. Honestly, I am seeing the best way right now is to spot the trend and get on board. Something goes from cents to dollars, or a couple bucks to $10+ basically every week. It's tough though. You'd have no problem throwing $5000 into ethereum when it was $150-$250, but throwing it all on a $1 coin can be down right scary. Most go up and come back down too, so it's not easy. I have a few cryptos I love and own/plan to own, but they are so long term that it's impossible to get excited about them right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane1091 View Post
    Some ICOs have been impossible to get on board with. Honestly, I am seeing the best way right now is to spot the trend and get on board. Something goes from cents to dollars, or a couple bucks to $10+ basically every week. It's tough though. You'd have no problem throwing $5000 into ethereum when it was $150-$250, but throwing it all on a $1 coin can be down right scary. Most go up and come back down too, so it's not easy. I have a few cryptos I love and own/plan to own, but they are so long term that it's impossible to get excited about them right now.
    +1 to this, you have do your research, trust your opinion, and pretty much forget about the money. Can go crazy watching the volatility in the short term.
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    +1 to this, you have do your research, trust your opinion, and pretty much forget about the money. Can go crazy watching the volatility in the short term.

    Ethereum has been having network issues it seems. Don't think it's doing the alt coins any favors.
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    I bought ANS at $11 and just sold that garbage for half that. Bought a ton of LISK instead. Doesn't really feel like a "loss" per say since the price of LISK is more than half of what it was when I had bought ANS, if that makes sense. Bought more ARK today too. I plan on selling my ethereum and loading up on LISK honestly. It's at 1.38, about 1/3 of it's all time high. It has big things on the horizon, I see it tripling easily and then passing that all time high. Ethereum got me to the dance but ultimately made me nothing, as it is sitting back where I bought it at. Amazing this crap is.
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    Ethereum got me to the dance but ultimately made me nothing, as it is sitting back where I bought it at. Amazing this crap is.
    I actually panic'd when it first starting dropping after hitting 400 and sold most of mine at 320. Was pissed at first when I saw go back up to 360. But not to frustrated anymore. :P

    I got a little chunk that I have sitting in USD waiting til this decline stops. Guessing sometime next month.

    Not sure what I want to put it in. Part me wants to put in ANS as it has greater gain potential from its current state but thinking ETH will be the safer bet long term.
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    I actually panic'd when it first starting dropping after hitting 400 and sold most of mine at 320. Was pissed at first when I saw go back up to 360. But not to frustrated anymore. :P

    I got a little chunk that I have sitting in USD waiting til this decline stops. Guessing sometime next month.

    Not sure what I want to put it in. Part me wants to put in ANS as it has greater gain potential from its current state but thinking ETH will be the safer bet long term.
    I'm down probably $800 from what I invested in. I didn't panic sell, but I wish I sold. August 1st is causing all of this. People are scared about what will happen to bitcoin. The price of every altcoin is based off of BTC, so no surprise that when BTC goes down, so does everything else. ANS is garbage in my opinion, I fell for it hook-line-sinker. Small and mostly unknown team, poor communication to western markets, not really solving any problem except trying to be the Chinese ethereum. I am glad to be out of it. It was nice when I was up $6000, but I wouldn't even consider cashing out for less than a substantial sum of money. I do wish I did what you did and sold off, so I could buy more when the price dips. So yeah, I am all in on LISK and . ARK. LISK has more short term potential than ARK, so I am on an 80/20 split. The way I see it, LISK is at 1/3 of it's all time high. Ethereum is at about half. If things stabilize and those heights are reached again, LISK should return more profit. LISK has a ton of potential, as does ARK, but it's really boom or bust and not a nice "stable" investment like ethereum.
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    Re-worked my spread sheet with the change of investments and the current prices. Actually am up money again. But that will change a bunch this month I bet.
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    There will be so much money flowing into crypto for the next 5+ years that there will be exponential growth for many coins. They will reach the all time high and then some
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane1091 View Post
    LISK should return more profit. LISK has a ton of potential, as does ARK, but it's really boom or bust and not a nice "stable" investment like ethereum.
    Looked in LISK and it does sound interesting. The team itself will probably draw a lot of attention to as well. Seeing potential there...
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    Looked in LISK and it does sound interesting. The team itself will probably draw a lot of attention to as well. Seeing potential there...
    Definitely big potential. I believe the price will reach $10+ once SDK is released later this year. Then if it becomes widely used and accepted, who knows what the ceiling is.

    Ethereum was scaring me because every time a big ICO happened, the network would slow down. Transactions would take forever, and that can be seen just going on CoinBase (sometimes CoinBase was the actual problem though). Let's keep things 100 for a second, and accept that this is all speculation lol. Nothing useful really out there yet, but I have a few thousand bucks that says it's worth finding out!
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    Interesting article. My biggest fear with crypto, is that the value of coins never become realized. What I mean is, we really have no idea what the worth should be of something. Take ethereum, which was $400+ at some point. You must "burn" ether to process a transaction on the ethereum platform. There is then a value there, as ethereum is a required commodity. What will be run on this platform though? Who will need the ether? Businesses? People? Remains to be seen. If the price is too costly, what would stop a company from developing their own blockchain? In come ARK, where you can easily deploy your own block chain. I believe you do not need to worry about using ARK on your cloned blockchain, but you would have to use ARK to use the "smart-bridge" to interact with other blockchains. I see value there.
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    Apart of me wanted to, but with governments now looking to crack down and make cryptocurrency illegal or trying to find ways to monitor it /make their own and then ban alternatives and actively looking for it on planes... I'm kinda nervous how much snooping is now going into it.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmir.../#74fd728976d2

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...cryptocurrency
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    Crypto markets rallied last week, as miners locked in the upgrade early. Maybe a little bit of fear goes into it this week before August looks to be a strong month for the alt coins. If you're thinking about getting in, prices are going up now - so I wouldn't wait. I think it's awhile before we see some of the crazy high levels (like $400+ eth) but I do think some significant price hikes are in the works.
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    I've been reading, my conclusion (nothing new) is that it's a high risk investment, you might make a lot of money in a short period of time and get out of it, but in the long term there is a high possibility that you will lose everything.

    I'd rather invest in something like real estate at this point in my life..boring, I know, and I also know that the real estate bubble might burst (Australia) but it seems to be a more stable (boring)long term investment for me.


    Good luck for everyone investing in Cyrpo currency, you might be the future billionaires soon....laughing at us mere humans playing it safe doing certs to get a pay rise
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnixGuy View Post
    I've been reading, my conclusion (nothing new) is that it's a high risk investment, you might make a lot of money in a short period of time and get out of it, but in the long term there is a high possibility that you will lose everything.

    I'd rather invest in something like real estate at this point in my life..boring, I know, and I also know that the real estate bubble might burst (Australia) but it seems to be a more stable (boring)long term investment for me.


    Good luck for everyone investing in Cyrpo currency, you might be the future billionaires soon....laughing at us mere humans playing it safe doing certs to get a pay rise

    Modern day gold rush and you're on the sidelines mate, not good. Put in $10k 3-4 years ago and you're retired today. Put in $10k today and maybe in 3-4 be retired then? Worth a chance.

    HUGE bull-run by BTC (as I predicted) and the alts. Have been day trading and increasing my position on my coins. I am still working hard at work, ANSIBLE is doing a TON for me now. Automated network baby. But crypto is where I spend my free time at work now.
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    @hurricane1091 - Did you cash out bitcoins before the fork into BCH? I know someone who did because they were uncertain. They didn't buy back in before the ramp back up and missed out on some profit. BCH was going crazy for a while. Starting low, hitting almost $700 each, then dropping down to less than half of that value. I'm definitely keeping an eye on all of that, but I recently improved my position in IOTA and am planning to do so more with Ripple too. Both seem like different sides of the same Future-Coin (pun intended). I've been watching the alt coins and seeing which ones have bull runs and it's been interesting. If one could read into all of them and had experience, they could make serious gains in their portfolios by trading them, risky as it might be as @UnixGuy pointed out. Not going to argue against their point, but opportunity is not without risk.
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    I bought a little bit of BTC right before the fork, just so I could get some free BCH (BCC). And sold the BCH right away the morning it was released at about $330. Got a little upset when I watched it hit $1000. It actually hit over $1400 for a very a brief moment.

    I think I might be boring and stick with the staple coins... BTC, ETH, and LTC for a little while. (I'll probably cave in and gamble on some other coins though.) Seeing how BTC handled this fork I think just cements it as showing it will be around for a long time and going to stay on top. Not gonna make you a millionaire anytime soon putting money into it. But don't see that growth stopping.


    Edit: Just want to warn people, I'm not saying you won't see drops in price. And I actually think there could be another decent size drop coming up personally. But in the long run it is just going to go up. I think anyone who goes in Crypto Coins expecting big short term gains, are just plain out gambling. Which isn't a bad thing imo, as long as you do it with money you can afford to lose. I actually have a little bit of money that I trade with daily on an exchange, I find it fun to do. Guessing what prices are going to do based on patterns.... I haven't made much doing it, but find it interesting.
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    @hurricane1091 - Did you cash out bitcoins before the fork into BCH? I know someone who did because they were uncertain. They didn't buy back in before the ramp back up and missed out on some profit. BCH was going crazy for a while. Starting low, hitting almost $700 each, then dropping down to less than half of that value. I'm definitely keeping an eye on all of that, but I recently improved my position in IOTA and am planning to do so more with Ripple too. Both seem like different sides of the same Future-Coin (pun intended). I've been watching the alt coins and seeing which ones have bull runs and it's been interesting. If one could read into all of them and had experience, they could make serious gains in their portfolios by trading them, risky as it might be as @UnixGuy pointed out. Not going to argue against their point, but opportunity is not without risk.
    I did not, but I should have. It would of resulted in a nice chunk of change, lesson learned I guess. I only hold a few coins right now, and I try to day trade to increase how much I have. I successfully added 900 ARK this week which has been good. There's a few coins I want, but I really just want to trade my way to 5 figures of each of the coins I have. It's mostly a shot in the dark but ya never know.

    Let's be real, no one knows the future of all these alts. As long as they are always worth more than I put in, I am happy. If I get lucky and I'm invested in something that blows up, that's awesome. It's just something fun to be involved with though, and it's exciting at the possibilities.
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    ANS is garbage in my opinion, I fell for it hook-line-sinker. Small and mostly unknown team, poor communication to western markets, not really solving any problem except trying to be the Chinese ethereum. I am glad to be out of it.

    That was great advice :P lol
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    That was great advice :P lol

    LOL, my friends kept theirs. I still don't believe in it and think it's all hype. I'm usually a FOMO guy but I didn't re-buy it. My portfolio would be worth $4,000 more if I kept it, but I still believe in the stuff I have. I sold and bought ARK at 37 cents, but I sold ANS at a 50% loss so I guess look at it as I paid 74 cents for ARK. Does NEO/ANS get to $110 before ARK gets to $7.40? If the answer is yes, then I made the wrong decision long term. If the answer is no, then I made the right call. Short term I made a mistake but I am not ready to admit it was the wrong move long term.
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    I'm invested. Cryptocurrencies make too much sense not to be the future of money. Only thing stopping that from happening is governments.

    What do you guys think about the long term viability of Bitcoin from a technical perspective? All of the altcoins have better tech yet bitcoin is the most valued. Segwit is obviously going to help but as adoption increases the network is going to keep getting bogged down. Personally that is the only thing stopping me from buying bitcoin. I guess the devs can keep doing soft forks as adoption increases?
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    NEO sitting just below $22. I think if it dips down to $15, I might unload some of my alts and get some for short term gains. I'm honestly shocked at the price. I spent a lot of time on the reddit and it was mostly nonsense compared to some other subreddits. ARK probably won't see real gains until later in the year when some serious developments come out, but I'm also happy to buy and sell the dips so I'm not sure what to do there. Two of my friends bought ANS/NEO per my suggestion and hated me LOL, and now they don't obviously. Classic.

    Bitcoin is the only "currency" really. ARK, ETH, NEO, etc aren't really currencies but tokens to be used for a service/gas.
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    shot up to 24 now :P I agree it has to come down at one point though. I bought in a little at about 20 and sold at 22. Surprised it is still going strong.


    If you look at the last few days it did a pretty good "inverse head and shoulders" pattern over that time before jumping up again. I'll be looking for another one around this range.

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